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Post by tiger on Apr 25, 2020 11:37:17 GMT -5
200 gallons is a lot of fuel to keep on board. Unless you're planning a trip to the stream or canyons keep an amount that you can use in a week or two, plus this way your fuel is always fresh. My scuppers sit above the waterline while slipped with anywhere from a 1/3 to 1/2 of a tank, but if I add full fuel they are still visible but noticeably lower. With the weight of 250s I'd imagine they would be below too. Moral of the story, keep less fuel on board. Boat should be designed so the scuppers are out of the water and able to drain quickly when the fuel level is full. That is real world usage. Perhaps it needs more floatation. Perhaps the deck needs to be raised. Its not a big deal for us as we only get wet when we both go to the same corner (He’s all muscle and weights about 30-40 pounds more than me -I’m just fat). It it was always sitting like that with no people in it, I would be concerned. No single owner on the internet would convince me otherwise. I keep my tank full. I am also concerned about water. We have high humidity here most of the year. When I got on the boat on Tuesday to load the ice the entire thing was drenched in water and it hadn’t rained. I think bottom paint looks terrible. I would have a lift at the slip to keep it out of the water when not in use and hose it off each time. If you can afford a wet slip, another $20k for a nice boat lift isn’t going to hurt. Just my opinion. I won’t ever buy a bottom painted boat either.
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Post by fishnfool on Apr 25, 2020 13:17:53 GMT -5
200 gallons is a lot of fuel to keep on board. Unless you're planning a trip to the stream or canyons keep an amount that you can use in a week or two, plus this way your fuel is always fresh. My scuppers sit above the waterline while slipped with anywhere from a 1/3 to 1/2 of a tank, but if I add full fuel they are still visible but noticeably lower. With the weight of 250s I'd imagine they would be below too. Moral of the story, keep less fuel on board. Boat should be designed so the scuppers are out of the water and able to drain quickly when the fuel level is full. That is real world usage. Perhaps it needs more floatation. Perhaps the deck needs to be raised. Its not a big deal for us as we only get wet when we both go to the same corner (He’s all muscle and weights about 30-40 pounds more than me -I’m just fat). It it was always sitting like that with no people in it, I would be concerned. No single owner on the internet would convince me otherwise. I keep my tank full. I am also concerned about water. We have high humidity here most of the year. When I got on the boat on Tuesday to load the ice the entire thing was drenched in water and it hadn’t rained. I think bottom paint looks terrible. I would have a lift at the slip to keep it out of the water when not in use and hose it off each time. If you can afford a wet slip, another $20k for a nice boat lift isn’t going to hurt. Just my opinion. I won’t ever buy a bottom painted boat either. Fair enough... Although I don't think real world usage is the majority running around recreationally with a full 200 gallon tank, I would guess you are more of an exception. A) It is very fuel inefficient B) if you dont use the fuel fast enough you run the risk of fuel contamination and C) for someone running 50 to 75 miles offshore with a full load that fuel level will drop quickly such that the scuppers should be a non issue in short order. For that matter I've seen a Yellowfin with scuppers submerged with a full load, have seen and been on other brands fishing with guys and a load in the back the scuppers are underwater regardless of fuel load. In retrospect maybe SF should not have mounted F250s on the hull OR maybe they should have put a smaller fuel tank in the boat, which are specification issues I guess . A 200 gallon tank for a boat our size is a BIG tank and provides for a lot of range. Me personallyx I'll take the extra fuel capacity and I would have no issues repowering today with the new lighter V6 F250. My boat has no issues with drainage or the scuppers being submerged with F150s, full load or not, well that is unless there 4 or 5 guys standing in the stern fishing, but most boats do in that case.
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Post by finatic on Apr 25, 2020 16:44:17 GMT -5
Looks like you need to downsize those motors! Wonder how they would work on my 2360..... 😳 Dam we do think alike I'd love to try. Lol
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Post by barryturano on Apr 25, 2020 19:50:43 GMT -5
Added some gear to the boat today.The surface is now at the top edge of the scupper. I washed down the deck the water did drain out of both scuppers while sitting at the dock. I think that my OCD is getting the best of me. Time to stop worrying and get out and get the decks bloody. Does anyone know who has the switch that controls the fan down here in Wilmington, NC? If so please ask the person to shut it down , or at least lower it. Seems as it has been blowing forever.
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Post by abouttime2fish on Apr 26, 2020 7:35:18 GMT -5
I don’t know but if you find it kill the one for Morehead city too please!
Been looking like a window Tuesday morning, enough to run 10-15 for bottom critters and head for the hill at noon anyway. That’s what I’m hoping.
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Post by abouttime2fish on Apr 26, 2020 10:21:59 GMT -5
Did I open my mouth about Tuesday?!? I take it back! Nothing to see here!
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Post by barryturano on Apr 26, 2020 13:05:05 GMT -5
Did I open my mouth about Tuesday?!? I take it back! Nothing to see here! Real small window out 20 miles. Decent in the am because of the wind shift. Then turning to crap. May be best to troll the beach for Spanish.
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Post by finatic on Apr 26, 2020 16:18:14 GMT -5
Were all getting the bad weather we never had this past winter. Rain every other day when it not raining it's blowing 20 to 30 mph. I can't catch two days of 50 degree weather to paint my bottom. Its still drops into mid 30's at night.
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Post by popeye on Apr 27, 2020 16:37:56 GMT -5
Looks like you need to downsize those motors! Wonder how they would work on my 2360..... 😳 I Keep them topped off. A hundred mile day is average for me.
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Post by keywest2860 on Apr 27, 2020 17:07:07 GMT -5
Also check and see if your fresh water tank is full because my 2860 with list a little more then normal when full. My tank is right below the boarding ladder on the port aft corner.
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Post by schlnrnd on Apr 27, 2020 19:56:54 GMT -5
I have 200 Zukes. They weight 503 lbs each. With a full tank of gas my scuppers are just barely under water. At a half tank they are above the water line.
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Post by simon2360 on May 13, 2020 8:42:06 GMT -5
I just placed my 2360 with 150's at a slip during this shutdown (ramps closed). I get a call from the dock master the following day that someone reported my boat looks to be sinking because my bilge (turned out to be scuppers) is below the water line. I s*** myself and raced to the marina. No water in boat, cabin dry, bilge dry as a bone. I look at a bunch of photos online and did a little searching. this is the way they sit in the water. I always keep my fuel topped off to prevent moisture, so she is always sitting heavy. I did notice when I ran my boat for a week with 1/2 a tank of fuel, she sat higher before I re-fueled. Attachment Deleted
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Post by barryturano on May 13, 2020 20:04:25 GMT -5
I just placed my 2360 with 150's at a slip during this shutdown (ramps closed). I get a call from the dock master the following day that someone reported my boat looks to be sinking because my bilge (turned out to be scuppers) is below the water line. I s*** myself and raced to the marina. No water in boat, cabin dry, bilge dry as a bone. I look at a bunch of photos online and did a little searching. this is the way they sit in the water. I always keep my fuel topped off to prevent moisture, so she is always sitting heavy. I did notice when I ran my boat for a week with 1/2 a tank of fuel, she sat higher before I re-fueled. Yes that is the way they sit. I almost crapped my pants when I saw it the first time. But now I am comfortable with it. But when you first put it in the water it makes your O ring pucker.
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Post by daves236 on May 14, 2020 17:23:04 GMT -5
The scupper placement is based on just enough room to fit a 90 fitting below the deck drain, not really a engineered fit, , more of a practical one for the assembly and fitting out of the hull. Would pay to inspect clamps an hoses on any fitting sitting underwater, should be double clamped, check for tightness.
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Post by Ol Mucky on May 15, 2020 7:53:54 GMT -5
Not relevant just a memory:
I remember once in my 236 full of fuel, ice, bait tackle and 4 guys We head offshore and are fishing. The biggest dude was 300# + He was fishing in the starboard corner I was next to him My feet were underwater I was like “wtf, are we taking on water!”
Then I put it together.
That only happened once.
Cause we don’t invite him anymore :-D
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