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Post by Team Ruby on Aug 30, 2018 9:43:41 GMT -5
By the way, the photos were really good, you got images that allowed me to easily follow the circuit traces and that's why I know the bottom tab is a ground tab and not a 12V + tab. The detail was excellent.
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Post by Team Ruby on Aug 30, 2018 10:26:08 GMT -5
OK, if moving the connector up one tab doesn't fix the problem then things might be a little more complex to fix. My first thought based on your last post is that the bow light was rewired at some point and it may be getting positive voltage all of the time instead of being connected to ground, but I can't figure out why it would be done that way.
Do you have a VOM?
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Post by Team Ruby on Aug 30, 2018 17:33:55 GMT -5
Geez, I just realized what is wrong and it was hiding in plain sight. In the last photo, it comes up as #192 for me when I click on it, the jumper with the diode is connected to the wrong terminal. Where it's connected to the bottom terminal in the photo, that end needs to move up to the tab not currently being used. That open tab is for the bow light. If the diode is oriented properly both lights should come on in the NAV position and the in the ANC position only the anchor light should come on. If you see the reverse situation happening flip the diode upside down and reconnect and that will fix it. It appears to be worn off in the picture, but the direction of flow on a diode is usually denoted by a band of paint on one end, in the photo I don't see any band. Once you move the diode to the proper tab you should be good.
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Post by sfgreg on Aug 30, 2018 22:12:58 GMT -5
Geez, I just realized what is wrong and it was hiding in plain sight. In the last photo, it comes up as #192 for me when I click on it, the jumper with the diode is connected to the wrong terminal. Where it's connected to the bottom terminal in the photo, that end needs to move up to the tab not currently being used. That open tab is for the bow light. If the diode is oriented properly both lights should come on in the NAV position and the in the ANC position only the anchor light should come on. If you see the reverse situation happening flip the diode upside down and reconnect and that will fix it. It appears to be worn off in the picture, but the direction of flow on a diode is usually denoted by a band of paint on one end, in the photo I don't see any band. Once you move the diode to the proper tab you should be good. Teamruby - YOU ROCK. I can see how dedicated you are to problem solving, and we're lucky to have you here. I'll be at the boat tomorrow and will try as you suggest, and get back rto you here. Thanks again.
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Post by Team Ruby on Aug 30, 2018 23:44:07 GMT -5
Thanks, the comment is very much appreciated.
If for some reason it still doesn't work right you'll need to test the diode. With a VOM it will take you all of 5 seconds to test the diode, so if it comes down to that I can tell you what to do depending on whether or not your VOM has a setting for testing diodes or if you'll need to test it using the Ohm meter on the VOM. My one concern for the diode that you have is that if it's passing voltage going from the top of the diode as seen in your photo to the tab at the bottom, the diode has been shorted out directly to ground and it might need to be replaced. The bottom tab is a common ground for the entire pcb. The good news if you have to replace it is this will be the cheapest repair you'll ever do on a boat, maybe a couple of bucks. You can't get anything at Starbucks for that kind of money.
Good luck!
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Post by ragtop409 on Aug 31, 2018 17:29:17 GMT -5
Ruby’s the best help!! You would never know that it has been years since he has owned a Sailfish. He deserves the out standing citizen award. I hope to meet him some da
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Post by Team Ruby on Aug 31, 2018 17:46:36 GMT -5
Thanks Rag's, I just hope now that it works out for sfgreg. His post was the type of post I really enjoy, something that really puts the mind to work.
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Post by sfgreg on Sept 3, 2018 17:45:22 GMT -5
Thanks Rag's, I just hope now that it works out for sfgreg. His post was the type of post I really enjoy, something that really puts the mind to work. Hi teamruby - I haven't forgotten about you, and still promise to let you know how all goes. I was out on the boat today fo a quick run with a fellow boater, but had some GPS and fishfinder issues to sort out and try (navionics etc) so I don't hit a sand bar like I did the first time I was out. Yup - I did meanwhile, I won't be boating at night right away, so the NAV/ANC light issue issue isn't an emergency, but I still will try that fix this week and am excited about it. Just letting you know thank you!! I'll post back on that issue as soon as I try it.
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Post by sfgreg on Sept 9, 2018 9:23:28 GMT -5
Thanks Rag's, I just hope now that it works out for sfgreg. His post was the type of post I really enjoy, something that really puts the mind to work. Hi teamruby - I haven't forgotten about you, and still promise to let you know how all goes. I was out on the boat today fo a quick run with a fellow boater, but had some GPS and fishfinder issues to sort out and try (navionics etc) so I don't hit a sand bar like I did the first time I was out. Yup - I did meanwhile, I won't be boating at night right away, so the NAV/ANC light issue issue isn't an emergency, but I still will try that fix this week and am excited about it. Just letting you know thank you!! I'll post back on that issue as soon as I try it. HI Team Ruby and SF members. I was at the boat yesterday and tried Teamruby's suggestions, and alas, it still didn't make noth the ANC/NAV lights come on in that switch position. I tried connecting the diode bridge connector as suggested, and also flipped it around in case that was the issue as well - nada. I think now I should order a new one of those - although I'm not sure what the search terms would be to find one - "diode, flag connector. crimp" etc don't bring anything up. Here's a screen shot showing just that connector - this was in the original position before teamruby's suggestion was attempted. where might i find one of these? Also, If I turn on the nav lights (which makes the bow lights come on) and couple that with a battery powered clamp-on style anchor lights, would that suffice for any coast guard check? In truth, i doubt i'll ever boat after dark, but that's not off the list entirely. thanks!! Attachment Deleted
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Post by Team Ruby on Sept 9, 2018 11:34:15 GMT -5
To answer your last question first, yes you can use a battery powered clamp-on light along with your bow lights. The requirement for working nav lights is not solely required only for use at night. You are required to run nav lights in situations of restricted visibility such as fog or rain too. If you want to test to see if you can get the anchor light to come we can try this next. All you need to do is bridge the center tab on the switch to the top tab. The center tab is 12 volts positive coming into the switch and the top tab goes to the anchor light circuit. Take something like a paper clip and connect the two tabs as shown in the picture. The anchor light should turn on. If it doesn't you've isolated the problem to either the pcb board, wiring going to the light switch or the light fixture itself. You've checked the bulb to make sure it's good right? Attachment DeletedIf you can get everything to work I can make up a diode jumper for you.
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Post by sfgreg on Sept 9, 2018 11:51:00 GMT -5
You've checked the bulb to make sure it's good right? Yup - it comes on in the ANC switch position. Thanks teamruby - I ain't giving up yet - i'll try as you suggest
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Post by sfgreg on Sept 9, 2018 11:54:00 GMT -5
Take something like a paper clip and connect the two tabs as shown in the picture. The anchor light should turn on. In other words, replicate exactly what's the picture I provided above (which was the incorrect connection for the initial experiment and solution we were seeking), and the anchor light should come on? thanks
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Post by Team Ruby on Sept 9, 2018 12:12:19 GMT -5
I had trouble with trying to add a picture you had provided. I copied the picture to Word to add some notes. I don't know if it will open for you or not.
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Post by sfgreg on Sept 9, 2018 12:18:04 GMT -5
I had trouble with trying to add a picture you had provided. I copied the picture to Word to add some notes. I don't know if it will open for you or not. HI TR - I don't see an attachment - you're welcome to email it if that works - I'll PM my email address
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Post by Team Ruby on Sept 9, 2018 12:33:51 GMT -5
Actually based on some information you just posted let's try something else first. Disconnect the diode jumper, you can just pull off one side of it and it makes no difference which side you pull. Now when you flip to the NAV position what happens? If the anchor light still turns on the wiring of the harness was modified before you bought the boat. If the anchor light does not come on then the problem may be confined to just the diode.
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