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Post by gatorman on May 16, 2021 18:14:01 GMT -5
Man that sucks I feel for ya, cant catch a break... MAKE sure you when you do the speedi sleeve you do the oil pump as well. When I did mine I only did the speedi sleeve and put the head back on. The leak was still there and had to pull the head again as the oil pump gasket was mated to the old shaft and let oil by.
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Post by hookedup on May 16, 2021 19:21:14 GMT -5
So sorry you’ve had such bad luck. Really. We all understand boats eat money, but yours is taking big gulps.
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Post by fishnfool on May 16, 2021 19:53:34 GMT -5
So sorry you’ve had such bad luck. Really. We all understand boats eat money, but yours is taking big gulps. And just think I have another motor to look forward too.
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Post by jski59 on May 17, 2021 7:55:04 GMT -5
That really sucks sorry you have to deal with it, hopefully the powerhead Is ok. This is such BS from Yamaha, I will probably go with another brand when I repower. If you get in a bind and have to DIY, it's really not bad to pull the powerhead if you're mechanically inclined. I did the oil pump/speedisleeve in a weekend and it was pretty straightforward with the shop manual...just needed to rent an engine hoist. I posted a slideshow on YouTube when I did it a few years ago. What shitty timing...when mine finally blows, no doubt it will be on the first day of snapper season.
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Post by fishnfool on May 17, 2021 8:14:55 GMT -5
That really sucks sorry you have to deal with it, hopefully the powerhead Is ok. This is such BS from Yamaha, I will probably go with another brand when I repower. If you get in a bind and have to DIY, it's really not bad to pull the powerhead if you're mechanically inclined. I did the oil pump/speedisleeve in a weekend and it was pretty straightforward with the shop manual...just needed to rent an engine hoist. I posted a slideshow on YouTube when I did it a few years ago. What shitty timing...when mine finally blows, no doubt it will be on the first day of snapper season. Thanks I have reached out to two local shops to see what they say. I need this done before June 19th. I'd be afraid to try and tackle that job with the age/hrs on my motor. Knowing my luck I'd run into multiple seized bolts and I'd end up breaking something only to cost me more money to have someone fix it. lol. Took me 2 hrs to get the damn plastic apron off yesterday. Whoever thought it was a good idea to mold nuts into the plastic that you cant reach is an idiot!
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Post by outtadblue on May 17, 2021 9:41:08 GMT -5
Sorry you are having trouble. Hopefully you can be up and running before your trip.
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Post by fishnfool on May 18, 2021 16:57:38 GMT -5
Hauled the boat and trailered it over the bridge to my mechanic yesterday.
Plan is to pull the block and inspect it, fingers crossed there is no damage there, then assess next steps.
I hope I can get away with just doing the guide exhaust. Just waiting to hear now...
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Post by finatic on May 18, 2021 18:11:35 GMT -5
O shit, fingers crossed for ya.
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Post by finatic on May 19, 2021 14:51:16 GMT -5
Any word today ?
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Post by fishnfool on May 19, 2021 17:20:03 GMT -5
Nothing yet. Hoping tomorrow. I emailed them late this afternoon but didn't hear back, hopefully they're busy getting my motor apart
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Post by reelkul on May 20, 2021 9:01:51 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know that Yami's other than F225s and F250s had this issue. Sorry to hear that your F150 has this issue. I scope my F250s every time I take off the lower unit. Its very peculiar that Yami's Aluminum castings have this issue. If I ever have to replace my midsection, I am going to do some metallurgical analysis of the corrosion mechanism that is deteriorating these engines. From the links in this chat, the corrosion spot on the F150 does not seem to be a location that one can inspect with a borascope.
I wish that the boating community would come together and gather data on the oils, fuels, and additives that engines with and without the issue are exposed to. My buddy with 2005 F225s is doing his second midsection replacement on one of his engines. But he is one of these people that only puts Costco gas in his boat (cheap gas with no detergents and a lot of ethanol), uses the cheapest motor oil he can find in AutoZone, adds no stabilizer or ring free. When I worked on race engine development, we had issues with steel exhaust tubes on our engines on the dyno, where the tubes completely deteriorated from the inside. We used M85 fuels exclusively, and we learned that the methanol combustion creates very corrosive exhaust gasses. My thought on the corrosion issue on the Yamahas is that the cause is a combination of the alloy Yamaha uses, the fuels/additives that are in the fuel, and the motor oils used.
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Post by Twisted on May 20, 2021 10:25:45 GMT -5
I had the dreaded exhaust corrosion on my old boat which had a 2003 F225 on it. My mechanic fought tooth and nail with my insurance company as we made a claim since this was not normal wear and tear rather manufacturer defect. To my shocking surprise my insurance company stepped up and did cover a portion of the repairs. It may be worth a shot for you to try that so you don't incur all of the expense. Sorry you are dealing with this, that sucks.
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Post by fishnfool on May 20, 2021 13:59:17 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know that Yami's other than F225s and F250s had this issue. Sorry to hear that your F150 has this issue. I scope my F250s every time I take off the lower unit. Its very peculiar that Yami's Aluminum castings have this issue. If I ever have to replace my midsection, I am going to do some metallurgical analysis of the corrosion mechanism that is deteriorating these engines. From the links in this chat, the corrosion spot on the F150 does not seem to be a location that one can inspect with a borascope. I wish that the boating community would come together and gather data on the oils, fuels, and additives that engines with and without the issue are exposed to. My buddy with 2005 F225s is doing his second midsection replacement on one of his engines. But he is one of these people that only puts Costco gas in his boat (cheap gas with no detergents and a lot of ethanol), uses the cheapest motor oil he can find in AutoZone, adds no stabilizer or ring free. When I worked on race engine development, we had issues with steel exhaust tubes on our engines on the dyno, where the tubes completely deteriorated from the inside. We used M85 fuels exclusively, and we learned that the methanol combustion creates very corrosive exhaust gasses. My thought on the corrosion issue on the Yamahas is that the cause is a combination of the alloy Yamaha uses, the fuels/additives that are in the fuel, and the motor oils used. I had heard there was a class action suit brought against Yamaha in 2013, but it got dismissed. Some have speculated that ethanol fuel may cause exhaust gas temps to be higher, that and lugging the engine. I do use ethanol because it's all we have and it's all that's ever been put in the tank. I don't lug the engines though and wot RPM range is within spec. I am of the belief that it is materials related given the sporadic and unexplained reasons why only certain engines seem to be effected. A materials source problem. Presumably not all aluminum is created equal? Wwhatever the cause, it damn sure shouldn't be happening and Yamaha should have figured and addressed the cause by now, but reading reports of even newer engines having the same issue begs the question, just what in the heck is Yamaha doing?
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Post by fishnfool on May 20, 2021 15:07:03 GMT -5
So I checked in with the shop and they said they haven't gotten to it yet, maybe next week. that they are 10 days out. I reminded the nice lady that I was lead to believe the tech was going to get to it sooner rather than later in between jobs and I quote, 'we'll do it to fill some time gaps, it's 2hrs to pull the block.' Told me to bring it in right away. Not that I could have used the boat as-is anyway, although I could've slapped some jb weld on the hole and maybe could've used it. And the Blue Angel's are performing next week for the Academy graduation which is when we take the boat out to watch.
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Post by abouttime2fish on May 21, 2021 17:23:52 GMT -5
They built that bridge too tall and ruined the show anyway….
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