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Post by kbh on May 4, 2019 14:34:22 GMT -5
I know you guys will get a good laugh out of this but it's something to think about:The apocalypse has a new date: 2048. That's when the world's oceans will be empty of fish, predicts an international team of ecologists and economists. The cause: the disappearance of species due to overfishing, pollution, habitat loss, and climate change. The study by Boris Worm, PhD, of Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, -- with colleagues in the U.K., U.S., Sweden, and Panama -- was an effort to understand what this loss of ocean species might mean to the world. The researchers analyzed several different kinds of data. Even to these ecology-minded scientists, the results were an unpleasant surprise.Salt water fish extinction
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Post by outtadblue on May 4, 2019 15:55:37 GMT -5
Well, I plan on killing my share this summer. It may happen sooner because I’m on a mission.
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Post by Team Ruby on May 4, 2019 16:03:38 GMT -5
Interesting. KBH, I'm wondering if you're seeing the same thing down your way that I'm seeing up here in northeast Florida and that is the results of red snapper closure for a number of years now. The populations have grown now to the point where on some trips we catch more red snappers than we do grunts. I'm also seeing that the average size has gone up. This runs counter to the fish apocalypse theory.
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Post by finatic on May 4, 2019 18:07:30 GMT -5
I don't think guys like you and I are any part of the problem. I do feel the commercial industry around the world will deplete our oceans in the future. So like Richard I'm going fish extra hard this season.
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Post by kbh on May 4, 2019 20:16:19 GMT -5
I've seen a huge increase in the amount of snook and also a rather large decrease in the amount of dolphin (mahi). But snook have been under the same strict rules as red snapper until recently. They have come back. Another is redfish. When chef Paul made redfish popular they were decimated and they are apparently coming back.
Still too early to make a real judgement but I do know the coral in the upper keys to Palm Beach are not doing well. And the amount of plastic in the ocean is something that can't be denied.
And since I've been fishing South Florida and the Bahamas for 40 years there is definitely a gradual but definite decrease in the fishing population. I can't think of one fish population that has improved in the last couple of decades other than snook. Kingfish which are way down. Barracuda are way down, dolphin are way down. reef fish are way down. How much is climate or natural and how much is our fishing, I couldn't say.
And Team Ruby, unfortunately we don't get many red snapper down here and what we do get haven't shown much improvement. We're more of a mutton snapper, yellow tail and mangrove area. Although I do hear they are taking over the reefs on the west coast. Just like Goliath grouper.
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Post by hookedup on May 5, 2019 8:09:38 GMT -5
I've read a couple of similar reports, but they came to the conclusion that some fish will thrive and others will not. Most fish will move further north as the waters warm as we've already seen to some degree especially the fish and lobster that are temperature sensitive.
Fish numbers in the Chesapeake Bay and off the coast vary from year to year. Striper have been hard hit by overfishing and IMO, overfishing of menhaden has impacted striper numbers too.
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Post by fishnfool on May 5, 2019 8:46:57 GMT -5
Well, I plan on killing my share this summer. It may happen sooner because I’m on a mission. Count me in. Going all in before doomsday!
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Post by finatic on May 5, 2019 8:54:27 GMT -5
No worries guys OAC wants to put an end to anything that runs on petroleum , no longer fuel for boats so our oceans will once again Thrive with fish.LMAO... Oh and don't forget about the farting cows we will all have to become vegetarians.
Happy Cinco de Mayo..
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Post by kbh on May 5, 2019 9:21:11 GMT -5
Well, I plan on killing my share this summer. It may happen sooner because I’m on a mission. Yeah, me too. What the hell, I'll be dead by 2048. But my share seems to be shrinking every year. Partly for lack of trying though.
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Post by finatic on May 5, 2019 9:37:16 GMT -5
Well, I plan on killing my share this summer. It may happen sooner because I’m on a mission. Yeah, me too. What the hell, I'll be dead by 2048. But my share seems to be shrinking every year. Partly for lack of trying though. Think positive we'll be in our 80s that's the new 60s.
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Post by Dirty D on May 5, 2019 13:48:25 GMT -5
Well I'm going to help out with the farting cow problem. A couple of nice steaks on the grill tonite for me and mama.
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Post by daves236 on May 5, 2019 17:37:12 GMT -5
We are definitely seeing rising ocean temps, especially along the east coast, more mahi now come in to fish able waters off the outer banks, rather than south Florida, tuna push thru in June an July, spending aug in Hudson canyon north, sea bass moving into southern New England.
That said there aren’t less total #, but a earlier season or a northwards movement of core population.
Just my observations since 2000 when I started regular trips on my own
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Post by Ol Mucky on May 6, 2019 9:02:18 GMT -5
I don't think guys like you and I are any part of the problem. I do feel the commercial industry around the world will deplete our oceans in the future. So like Richard I'm going fish extra hard this season. Buddy was talking to a commercial fisherman this week. The guy was smug, almost laughing at the take and size restrictions they get and pretty much knew how the family fisherman was getting fucked and cared not one bit. I’m not anti-comm, what I am is bothered by the allocation and restrictions based on what the feds call “science”.
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Post by Pepe on May 6, 2019 9:54:43 GMT -5
The funny part is on 2048 I will be 90, so I don't know if I will be able to hold a rod LOL. So I will try to get my share too, sooner.
On the real part, it is a reality that the commercial industry, specially on those countries that there are no rules, should be more regulated based on more true facts.
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Post by Twisted on May 6, 2019 10:14:13 GMT -5
I think all of this is cyclical. In the 1980's the striped bass stock was nearly obliterated, rebounded with strict regulations and now in 2019 there is concern for the stock again and we have already seen further restrictions on daily fishing limits. We have not been able to fish for cod up here in Massachusetts for a few years but they are slaying/over fishing the haddock stock. I'm waiting for the regulations to be put in place for haddock any day now...just my 2 cents.
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