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Post by cmw225 on Feb 20, 2020 22:16:50 GMT -5
Hi I purchased a new 220CC last summer and I’m thinking of installing downriggers. I haven’t decided on a brand yet but I’m leaning towards cannon with swivel mounts. I’m trying to figure out the best location to install them. Are the gunwales inside the caulking over the rod holders strong enough with thru bolting and backing plates? Or would it be best to install them further back towards the stern. But it Looks like it would be almost impossible to put a backing plate under them in that location. Has anyone on here installed downriggers on this model boat or a 218. Any recommendations or pictures would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
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Post by popeye on Feb 21, 2020 8:54:06 GMT -5
People put rod holders in the gunwale cap, so maybe, I used gimbal mounts and put them in the rear rod holders.
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Post by wkendwarrior on Feb 21, 2020 9:12:43 GMT -5
The weight of the downrigger will be a major factor. So are you planning on buying an electric or manual? The manual should be Ok, those big cannon Mag 10's are heavy suckers. I've gone to another, electric downrigger that is lighter than the cannons. Magnum Metalz Downriggers, made in IL, USA. A lot of Charter Captains on Lake MI have switched to the Magnum's. And I agree with the rear rod holders.
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Post by popeye on Feb 21, 2020 10:08:18 GMT -5
The weight of the downrigger will be a major factor. So are you planning on buying an electric or manual? The manual should be Ok, those big cannon Mag 10's are heavy suckers. I've gone to another, electric downrigger that is lighter than the cannons. Magnum Metalz Downriggers, made in IL, USA. A lot of Charter Captains on Lake MI have switched to the Magnum's. And I agree with the rear rod holders. Glad to see some support for these guys. He is a very good friend of mine. I still have the original Vectors that the Magnumz are models after.
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Post by cmw225 on Feb 22, 2020 20:03:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. I’m thinking I’ll give a gimbal mount in the back rod holder a try if it’s to far back I can always add a quick change mount or something else further up the gunwale later on and I’m not crazy about drilling holes in my new boat just yet . I was considering going with cannon manual down riggers just to keep it simple. I’ve used them in the past never been impressed with them but they work. But after looking at Magnum Metalz web site I now think I’m going to go that route. They look like a very well made simple product just machined aluminum parts, motor and a switch. So they should be easy to repair when something breaks. No plastic parts or fancy digital controls to worry about breaking. Thanks for recommending Magnum Metalz I’ve never heard of them before It appears to be a solid product. Looks like I’m going to have to spend some $$ and find out.
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Post by chesapeake173 on Feb 23, 2020 11:11:37 GMT -5
Check out some of the Traxtech setups. You can get them for gimbal mounts or mount the tracks permanently. I’ve had them on my last two bits and will install them on my next (quite likely a Sailfish if things work out). They help to spread out the pressure of the riggers.
Another thing I did on my Seaswirl was to reinforce the gunnels with some angle aluminum. Used 5200 and really shored them up.
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Post by cmw225 on Feb 24, 2020 17:52:58 GMT -5
Just ordered a magnum metalz with swivel base and gimbal mount. I’ll see how I like it. If it’s good I’ll order another.
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Post by wkendwarrior on Feb 24, 2020 22:20:50 GMT -5
I'm sure you will. I use the Gimbal mounts when I'm just fishing a few hours in the morning for the trout & salmon. When I'm with the boys, I set the 5' Traxstech section in Gimbals. Slide the Magnums in the Tracs, along with 4 more Dipsy rod holders and a tool/cup holder. Very stable. I'll post a pic of the Traxstech in soon.
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Post by chesapeake173 on Feb 25, 2020 19:25:11 GMT -5
No problems with too much stress on the gimbal rod holders with the downriggers? I’m thinking I may have to do that if I wind up with a SF. It looks like access under the gunnels aft of the rear rod holders is non existent. Can you speak to that? I was hoping to mount tracks back there, but not sure I can access under the gunnel for backing plates.
Thanks
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Post by spearouno on Mar 14, 2020 18:05:18 GMT -5
Hello, I am looking at a new 220 CC also, how do you like the boat in general? Thanks
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Post by cmw225 on Mar 14, 2020 21:57:33 GMT -5
I’ve been very happy with the boat. If I were single and didn’t have kids I probably would have went with something larger with a more open layout. But the 220 has been the perfect compromise the wife and kids love the bow seating. It’s easy to trailer and launch at the ramp by myself. My wife can’t back a trailer and will not even attempt to drive a boat. I like the high gunwales my kids are still small. And it’s still very capable of fishing with guys when I get a chance to go. It can get a little cramped fishing with any more than three but I make it work. I’ve had it 50 miles out with full confidence. Not many 21’ boats I would attempt to go that far even on a nice day. It handles a head sea very well better than some of the larger more expensive boats I’ve ridden in. In a tailing sea it was a little tricky at first but once I got a feel for the boat it’s not too bad. I’ve read where people say sailfish boats are wet but that hasn’t been the case with mine. The boat felt funny compared to my other boat at first it tends to wander at idle speed and rolls a good bit at speed when turning or weight movement I guess due to steep deadrise. But after a few times out and playing with the trim tabs I hardly notice it anymore. I haven’t had the first problem with the boat or motor yet. The wiring looks ok I’ve read where this was a complaint on older models. It’s not a big jumbled up rats nest but it doesn’t look like a work of art either like I’ve seen pictures of on some boats. It has Yamaha 200 with the hard top and most of the options available on it. Performance has been acceptable Not the fastest boat in the word but good enough. I’ve gotten 46MPH with me the wife and two children 3/4 tank of fuel. I usually ride 30 MPH with 3.8 to 4.2 MPG depending on load , wind and current. I Only have three complaints about the boat 1 the steering wheel is to low I’m 6’1” it was hurting my back after driving it all day so I made a 3” extension for the steering wheel. 2 the scuppers don’t completely drain water out of the recessed areas in the back of the boat. I just use a shop vac to get the last bit of water out. 3 The fish boxes don’t hold ice very well. But over all I’m very pleased with my boat it’s only a year old and I’m still learning the inns and outs of it.
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Post by fishnfool on Mar 15, 2020 7:21:03 GMT -5
Nice summary cmw. Having owned the same boat, a 218 I agree with all of the above. Great hull and all around platform.
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