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Post by kbh on May 12, 2019 10:57:20 GMT -5
New one on me. Washed up on our little Intercoastal beach down the street. Attachment Deleted
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Post by outtadblue on May 12, 2019 12:07:45 GMT -5
Ugly fellow.
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Post by abouttime2fish on May 12, 2019 13:33:49 GMT -5
That the scientific name?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 16:05:03 GMT -5
Looks very similar to our sea robins just the wrong color
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Post by footy3 on May 12, 2019 19:40:38 GMT -5
Not sure, but it doesn't look like a sea robin to me at all. Sea Robins have more of a skin, like a shark, than scales, at least in NJ they do.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 19:50:42 GMT -5
That’s very true but this fish has the same shape and looking head .and fins.
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Post by kbh on May 13, 2019 6:40:30 GMT -5
Not a standard sea robin that you normally sea on the reefs. The pectoral fin is smaller and the skin is much different, although it could be some variant of sea robin. This thing looked prehistoric. Check out this page of Florida fishes. It's pretty cool. Florida Fish Species
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Post by Maysport on May 13, 2019 21:04:59 GMT -5
Looks like some type of sea robin, but maybe not one of the ones listed in your link. Do you think it could be a pleco, escaped from an aquarium? Don't know if they can survive in salt water though.
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Post by ragtop409 on May 13, 2019 21:26:57 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of Pleco to me also. But I am unfamiliar with sea robins. Rag’s
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Post by unclebuck on May 14, 2019 17:48:25 GMT -5
Answer: Vermiculated Sailfin Catfish, Pterygoplichthys disjunctivus
Common in Florida. It's a freshwater fish that most likely got expelled through a spillway into the Intracoastal and died from dehydration in saltwater.
Yeah, I know that sounds odd for a fish to die from dehydration, but that's essentially what happens. Saltwater pulls the freshwater from their cells via osmosis. It's the opposite with saltwater fish. If they're immersed in fresh water, their cells will absorb water via osmosis, bloat, and rupture the cell linings. That's actually used as a method to remove external parasites from saltwater aquarium fish during a quarantine before introducing it to the main tank. A short freshwater bath treatment causes parasites to bloat and die in a shorter time than the fish.
And that's your science lesson for the day.
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Post by kbh on May 14, 2019 20:20:54 GMT -5
Pterygoplichthys disjunctivus (Weber, 1991)
Common name: Vermiculated Sailfin Catfish
Taxonomy: available through ITIS logo
Identification: Weber (1991, 1992) assigned sailfin catfishes to three genera and described this species as new under the name Liposarcus disjunctivus. Armbruster (1997), after a detailed systematic review, placed the genus Liposarcus into the synonymy of Pterygoplichthys. Weber (1992) provided a key and distinguishing characteristics and photographs of specimens; Armbruster and Page (2006) present a revised key to species in the genus Pterygoplichthys (except P. ambrosettii). Page (1994) also provided a few distinguishing characteristics. Measurements and counts for several Florida specimens were given by Ludlow and Walsh (1991). The dorsal pattern consists of light spots that become chevrons posteriorly. The abdominal pattern has dark and light vermiculations of equal width (Howells 2005).
Pterygoplichthys and other suckermouth armored catfishes (family Loricariidae) can be distinguished from native North American catfishes (Ictaluridae) by the presence of flexible bony plates (absent in ictalurids) and a ventral suctorial mouth (terminal in ictalurids). Pterygoplichthys is often confused with Hypostomus: these genera can be distinguished by the number of dorsal fin rays (7-8 in Hypostomus vs. 9-14 in Pterygoplichthys).
Size: 70 cm.
Native Range: Tropical America. The Madeira River drainage, Amazon Basin, South America (Weber 1992). US auto-generated map LegendUSGS Logo Alaska auto-generated map Alaska Hawaii auto-generated map Hawaii Caribbean auto-generated map Puerto Rico & Virgin Islands Guam auto-generated map Guam Saipan Hydrologic Unit Codes (HUCs) Explained Interactive maps: Point Distribution Maps
Nonindigenous Occurrences:
Table 1. States with nonindigenous occurrences, the earliest and latest observations in each state, and the tally and names of HUCs with observations†. Names and dates are hyperlinked to their relevant specimen records. The list of references for all nonindigenous occurrences of Pterygoplichthys disjunctivus are found here.
State Year of earliest observation Year of last observation Total HUCs with observations† HUCs with observations† Alabama 2014 2014 1 Mobile Bay Colorado 2009 2009 1 Alamosa-Trinchera Florida 1971 2017 22 Alafia; Big Cypress Swamp; Charlotte Harbor; Chipola; Crystal-Pithlachascotee; Everglades; Florida Southeast Coast; Hillsborough; Kissimmee; Lake Okeechobee; Little Manatee; Lower St. Johns; Manatee; Myakka; Northern Gulf of Mexico; Oklawaha; Peace; Santa Fe; Tampa Bay; Upper St. Johns; Western Okeechobee Inflow; Withlacoochee
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Post by kbh on May 14, 2019 20:34:13 GMT -5
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Post by unclebuck on May 14, 2019 20:48:20 GMT -5
It does say Everglades, which is where it was flushed from. I've seen plenty of them over the years in lakes in western Boca Raton, and in the Hillsboro Canal (Broward / PB border) which has a spillway from the Loxahatchee wetlands.
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Post by kbh on May 15, 2019 7:07:20 GMT -5
You're right. I missed the "Florida southeast coast and lake Okeechobee" part.
Case closed!
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Post by Team Ruby on May 15, 2019 8:00:06 GMT -5
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