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Post by kingpin123 on May 30, 2019 10:40:07 GMT -5
Which model boat do u have ?
As I tried all settings and make no difference We’ll just slightly it helps . The spray I can deal with if I have to. It is just the handling in how it rides in ruff following seas that scares me
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Post by fishnfool on May 30, 2019 10:42:19 GMT -5
I have a 2660cc. Have several years and over 500 hrs at the helm in her.
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Post by kingpin123 on May 30, 2019 10:48:07 GMT -5
Oh ok So you don’t have have problem with handeling in ruff following seas? If very ruff 5 6 chops how to do you set ur taps and trim and how fast do u go?
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Post by fishnfool on May 30, 2019 10:57:11 GMT -5
Oh ok So you don’t have have problem with handeling in ruff following seas? If very ruff 5 6 chops how to do you set ur taps and trim and how fast do u go? I do not have problems in following seas. Have even come through a rough NC inlet on a few occasions and beyond taking some spray in those conditions no issues with handling. Trim tabs should be fully retracted in a following sea and I like to trim the bow up using positive engine trim. Conditions dictate speed. Bigger waves,,, I ride the backs of the waves. Large swells i take them one at time and the boat tends to do very well cutting the back of the next swell and clearing it. 5' is NOT chop those can be serious waves and ones I try to avoid. 5' swells spaced far enough apart and depending on secondary waves i can usually cruise pretty comfortably. Nobody is going fast in true 5 to 6' waves, even big sporty's.
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Post by kbh on May 30, 2019 12:26:50 GMT -5
All deep V's are shitty in a big following sea. I used to have a 43 Whiticar which was not only deep V but also had a keel. That thing was a bear in a following sea. But on the other hand, in nasty winter sailfishing weather we jokingly called the worst days, "Whiticar weather". I guess everything is a trade off.
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Post by outtadblue on May 30, 2019 16:08:57 GMT -5
Fishnfool is spot on as far as retracting the tabs in a following sea. Bow up and speed up is what I find works best for me. I do have a slightly larger boat, but not by much.
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Post by Maysport on May 30, 2019 17:53:25 GMT -5
First off, it's called a chine, not chime. I believe that most performance boat hulls these days have reverse chines. The words and arrows make sense in this picture but to my eye, the right side of the picture is a mirror image of the left and is showing a reverse chine, not a 'standard monohull'.
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Post by kbh on May 30, 2019 18:55:18 GMT -5
Follow the yellow line and you'll see the difference. Not the actual hull.
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Post by abouttime2fish on May 30, 2019 18:58:35 GMT -5
1. Have a 5 piece enclosure made for your boat. Best money you’ll ever spend. #2 is an autopilot but that’s a separate discussion.
2. You have engine trim. and trim tabs. Use them. Aggressively.
3. Go faster. It will move spray further aft, kind of like over running your headlights when you drive at night.
4. If 3 is not possible, go slower, trim tabs down and down on wet side. It will knock spray flatter/lower. Hopefully keep it out of wind so it doesn’t come over rail. Trim motors full down.
5. If 4 doesn’t work, slower and trim wet side high. It’ll work but your not going to get anywhere fast. Trim motors up until you can’t get bow any higher.
This is just what works for me and my progression in getting a dry ride. If I’m going 2 hrs offshore slow is not an option, if it’s that bad I turn around and go home.
Following sea, if it’s 5-6 like you are talking, get on back side of a swell and stay there. Trim tabs up. You don’t want this to happen....
2-4 ft seas, 8 sec dominate period, no secondary wave, winds no greater than 10-15 with a southern direct throughout day. That’s my worst case to run 40+ offshore in my 2360. Need to know your boat, know your inlet, know your fishing grounds. Experience is best teacher, just take baby steps. You should get wet, miserable, and uncomfortable long before you hit limits of boat, you just need to develop the boat skills s along the way so it’s not dangerous.
As a teenager I got thrown from a boat a boat unexpectedly as the operator. As an adult I got impatient behind a sport Fisher in the inlet, pitch poled and tossed a passenger out. Lucky in both cases and nobody hurt. Read, practice, take classes, hire a local captain, never stop learning. And never, ever, think you’ve got it licked and take the sea for granted. On land you are at top of food chain, on the water you are potential crab food.
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Post by mikeli on May 25, 2020 8:40:28 GMT -5
I've had a dozen or more boats in the 19 to 25' range and I think the 218 hull is one of the nicest riding in it's class. I have heard from other folks that the 23 is a little wetter. But I heard that from a couple of friend's who also admit to never have ridden in one. So I don't really know if it's true or not. My good friend and fishing buddy up in Stuart has a 21 BlueWater and it's a really snotty ride compared to my Sailfish. He has a neighbor that had a 236 Sailfish for sale and said he didn't buy it because it was a wet boat. Then admitted he'd never been on one.
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