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Post by chrissyt on Feb 19, 2020 6:57:34 GMT -5
As I am in the process of having a new 270 cc sailfish built. I choose to install the electronics myself since they don't have many options for gps .My question is what transducer to have installed at the factory? I am leaning towards a garmin 1242 touch screen with radar bundle. Thanks for any suggestions and or recommendations, Rob
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Post by tower8 on Feb 19, 2020 7:05:46 GMT -5
I have all simrad. Radar, 3d structure scan, weather, AIS vhf Everything works great,radar is very good
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Post by abouttime2fish on Feb 19, 2020 7:19:59 GMT -5
I’ll second the simrad. NSS with B175M thru Hull transducer plus an LSS-2 side/downview transducer off transom. The B175 is way to go. Which chirp range depends on your fishing preferences, but the M has done well for me as an all around transducer. Can be ordered with correct plug for whichever chart plotter manufacturer you go with.
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Post by jski59 on Feb 19, 2020 8:14:06 GMT -5
How deep do you normally fish? Troll or bottom fish? I prefer Simrad as well, but it's all personal preference...if possible, head to West Marine or Bass Pro and play around with them.
On the Garmin side, I had a GT51 transducer which was a good all-around choice. Does Garmin make a touch/knob hybrid interface? I had a 7612 and hated the touch only in rough weather. On my current Simrad Evo 3, I have a B175 pair (high and low), which is awesome but $$$. In the end, you only need to get the transducer applicable for your fishing.
If paying the premium to have a factory installed ducer, I'd make sure they're running the cable to the console...that was way harder than cutting a hole!
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Post by reelkul on Feb 19, 2020 9:18:55 GMT -5
I like the Garmin products, and how intuitive the different menus are. I am not a fan of the Raymarine or Simrad software menus. If you are not going to be using your boat in rough waters, where your screen will get wet alot, go with a touch screen, like the 8612xsv. The touch screen creates a real nice clean look on the dash. Also, since it sounds like that you want to run a radar, the 8612 has the fastest processor of any of the Garmin's. The processing speed of the 8612 and the 1242 are significantly different.
As for the transducer, I would recommend a thru-hull. As for which one, it all depends on what you want to do with the electronics, shallow or deep.
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Post by Pepe on Feb 19, 2020 9:56:33 GMT -5
I have an all Garmin suite. 2 X 7610's Reactor Autopilot, GT51 TM and B175LM Transducers, 6' XHD2 Open Array Radar, Garmin GA53 Weather (buy the 54 if you want the new features). In addition I also have a Simrad NS7 with the CMOR map system for the reef fishing.
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Post by outtadblue on Feb 19, 2020 10:07:48 GMT -5
The b175 ducer is hard to beat. The depth and target species will determine which one you will need. The medium chirp will cover most everything. I captain boats with all types of units from simrad, raymarine, and garmin and I prefer garmin, but that’s just me. If you could swing it, I would go with a 8600 series. Either a 8610 or 8612 with built in gsd 25. The speed of the processor on the 8600 series is amazing. So much better than the 1242.
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Post by gatorman on Feb 19, 2020 19:09:54 GMT -5
I agree with going with the Garmin 8600 series if you can swing it. I went with 2 8616xsv's and for the transducers I went b175 high and b175 low as well as the GT 34HD Down view side scan. Might be overkill for your boat but I like the Garmin over the competition. But its personal preference there all good its just what you like or are used too.
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Post by gilm on Feb 19, 2020 19:20:26 GMT -5
Getting a 245dc delivered in about 6 weeks with: - Garmin 8612xsv
- Garmin Fantom Radar
- GXM 54 SiriusX weather antenna
- B175HW thru hull transducer
- GT30 transom mounted transducer for clearvu/sidevu
- Garmin VHF
- Marinco Spl 12w spot light
- Fells Marine wireless MOB switch
Now I am outa money
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Post by hookedup on Feb 19, 2020 20:48:39 GMT -5
gilm, you're going to love the boat. I really like your electronics selections too. I'd add an autopilot, but your use may not call for one. The fantom radar has already steered me away from a quick moving storm and marked boats and their directions while in fog. So, you may be outa money, but you've gota great boat coming.
I've had chartplotters with dials and touch. Since I spend hours getting to the Gulf Stream and then trolling I prefer dials. I'd get my hands soaked and my touch screen wouldn't respond all the time and trying to it to respond properly when running in waves was a real challenge. I like the big buttons and dials. Guess if I fished in calmer waters I'd like the touch screens.
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Post by gilm on Feb 19, 2020 21:27:43 GMT -5
gilm, you're going to love the boat. I really like your electronics selections too. I'd add an autopilot, but your use may not call for one. The fantom radar has already steered me away from a quick moving storm and marked boats and their directions while in fog. So, you may be outa money, but you've gota great boat coming. I've had chartplotters with dials and touch. Since I spend hours getting to the Gulf Stream and then trolling I prefer dials. I'd get my hands soaked and my touch screen wouldn't respond all the time and trying to it to respond properly when running in waves was a real challenge. I like the big buttons and dials. Guess if I fished in calmer waters I'd like the touch screens. I decided on the 8612 because my fiend who had the earlier version said that screen on the 8600 series is so much better in the sun and much more readable. I hope that having touch screen isn’t an issue - haven’t thought if the issue you raises - time will tell 😎 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by chrissyt on Feb 20, 2020 7:25:20 GMT -5
Seaman, good luck with your purchase.I think I will step up to the 8600 series also. I have a friend who has a sea hunt with the dual ducers and seems to work.What is the difference between the 8612 and 8612 xsv? Thanks for all the suggestions from everyone. I like the simrad nss12 evo3 but don't know if the Garmin transducer cable can be adapted to Simrad units. Thanks again to everyone, Rob
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Post by gilm on Feb 20, 2020 8:59:27 GMT -5
Seaman, good luck with your purchase.I think I will step up to the 8600 series also. I have a friend who has a sea hunt with the dual ducers and seems to work.What is the difference between the 8612 and 8612 xsv? Thanks for all the suggestions from everyone. I like the simrad nss12 evo3 but don't know if the Garmin transducer cable can be adapted to Simrad units. Thanks again to everyone, Rob The 8612xsv has sonar capabilities (i.e. your transducers) built in where the 8612 needs to hook an external black box for the sonar capabilities.
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Post by chrissyt on Feb 22, 2020 6:33:28 GMT -5
Thank you for all the info, Rob
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Post by fishnfool on Feb 22, 2020 8:57:27 GMT -5
I have twin Garmin 8212 units, Garmin AP, weather, sonar, and radar. All good equipment and like with all Garmin units, very intuitive. That said, if I were to buy all new equipment today I would give Simrad and Furino a strong look. Reason being, I have become fatigued by all of Garmins glitchy updates and the associated costs. Furthermore, Garmin is very proprietary in that you can only use Garmins substandard charts/map on their machines, whereas Simrad and the like, you can purchase much better, highly detailed 3rd party maps like Cmore maps etc. Dont get me wrong, Garmins navigational charts are fine, but if you want the best contoured, high resolution, detail fishing maps, Garmin falls way short. Here's an example of what's available to nonGarmin customers. www.cmormapping.com/sample-imagery?gclid=Cj0KCQiAv8PyBRDMARIsAFo4wK0GJ0CaPYWuw-M01m8uRKQLVfBK4yG-cVDXhWQfWMI8YBJq-lXWJ1caAluWEALw_wcB
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