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Post by tiger on Apr 6, 2019 20:01:07 GMT -5
I have both drains closed, the inlet on the big one shut off, turn on the live well pump for the little one and the bit one still fills out. Took out an inflatable life jacket that was stored in there for the ride to the ramp. Super annoying. Water isn't spring out of the nozzle. I didn't get a chance to inspect it myself but there is clearly a leak. I would like to at least put a shut off valve in the area of the drain valve so I could shut off the water from ever reaching that live well. Any suggestions?
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Post by finatic on Apr 7, 2019 8:40:36 GMT -5
When mine was leaking it was because the ball valve inside the small baitwell switch had failed. I replaced it problem solved.
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Post by tiger on Apr 7, 2019 13:13:58 GMT -5
I don't know what any of that means. I need a lot more specifics and context.
I have 2 live wells. I want to use the big one for storage. I don't want seawater in it. I want to use the little one for bait. I want water in it, but I don't want to have to run the pump every second of every minute, of every hour I am out there. I don't know why the bait needs continuous water supply. It ought to be able to be run for 5 minutes an hour, especially if we ice it down a bit.
When I say leak, I mean water is coming IN to the big one even though I have it OFF on the spray nozzle which is the only place I can shut it off. (nozzle that pokes out the side of the livewell and sprays in whatever direction you point it) When off there should be no water. My son said there wasn't water coming from the nozzle but that is the only way it could be getting in. I couldn't look at it as I was either driving, or being seasick. Both live wells share the SAME pump and same master shut off valve which is a seacock I guess. It is a quarter turn valve. I need to run the small one but not run the big one. I want to be able to use the big one in the event that I need it. It's there. It would be very convenient to store stuff in there. I would never have ordered the boat this way. I would have ordered either the tackle storage option or the drawers. I wasn't even aware of those options, but regardless, ordering a boat the way you want it requires paying retail or close so I can't complain about that. I just need to make the adjustments.
I also have another leak in both livewells, which I mentioned in another thread. Never got a solution for that. Keep in mind this is a new boat. Its been like this since day one so it's not a worn out part. When you turn off the live well, the water goes right back out of the pump backward. It doesn't matter if I am in the water or on the trailer. When I turn off the live well pump, the water runs out backward right out the very pickup that it came in to. I would have to close the seacock for the pump every time I wanted to turn it off. That's on my hands and knees with my arm almost to my shoulder in the bilge hitting my head on the transom as the boat bounced around. I want to just hit the switch. I would love to just have a timer that ran the live well for 2 minutes every 10.
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Post by fishnfool on Apr 7, 2019 13:55:15 GMT -5
If it is new call your dealer and let them resolve it under warranty.
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Post by kbh on Apr 7, 2019 13:57:29 GMT -5
On mine water will come in through the bottom when underway unless you have the bottom plugged or the tube inserted into the hole. I would imagine having one of yours full would probably back flow water into the other one since water seeks it's own height.
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Post by finatic on Apr 7, 2019 14:37:30 GMT -5
If it is new call your dealer and let them resolve it under warranty. If not, you could always disconnect the water supply hose to that well. Just be sure to cap it off correctly.
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Post by outtadblue on Apr 7, 2019 14:51:05 GMT -5
On mine there is a cut off valve at each live well for the drain. I will get water backing up if it’s not closed. I close both drains and I usually only open the valve inside the small live well. I use my big bait well for storage most of the time also. I keep my pump on the whole day with no problems. At the end of the day I open the drain valve to empty the bait well.
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Post by tiger on Apr 8, 2019 1:05:41 GMT -5
On mine there is a cut off valve at each live well for the drain. I will get water backing up if it’s not closed. I close both drains and I usually only open the valve inside the small live well. I use my big bait well for storage most of the time also. I keep my pump on the whole day with no problems. At the end of the day I open the drain valve to empty the bait well. This is exactly how I have it. No idea why water is in the big one. We checked the drain and it was closed. It wouldn't fill up that much from the drain being open anyway. Apparently there is something about your system that is missing in mine. If you turn off the pump does the.water drain down to the spigot?
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Post by tiger on Apr 8, 2019 1:07:56 GMT -5
If it is new call your dealer and let them resolve it under warranty. I am not aware of any warranty. I really have no idea what. you are talking about. I've just been fixing stuff here and there as I go. I understand the hull has a 10 hear warranty and the engines have 5 years even though my paperwork says 3. I have no idea why but the dealer said it would say that.
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Post by tiger on Apr 8, 2019 1:12:01 GMT -5
On mine water will come in through the bottom when underway unless you have the bottom plugged or the tube inserted into the hole. I would imagine having one of yours full would probably back flow water into the other one since water seeks it's own height. There is no tube. Water doesn't come in the bottom. The drain is on the bottom side. The inlet is several inches above and comes fro the side. The nozzle has a shut off just seems to be failing. As for seeking its own level, the live wells will simply drain out of the boat entirely through the inlets even if the drains are closed. They won't go below the inlets but that only leaves a few inches of water.
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Post by fishnfool on Apr 8, 2019 6:34:33 GMT -5
On mine water will come in through the bottom when underway unless you have the bottom plugged or the tube inserted into the hole. I would imagine having one of yours full would probably back flow water into the other one since water seeks it's own height. There is no tube. Water doesn't come in the bottom. The drain is on the bottom side. The inlet is several inches above and comes fro the side. The nozzle has a shut off just seems to be failing. As for seeking its own level, the live wells will simply drain out of the boat entirely through the inlets even if the drains are closed. They won't go below the inlets but that only leaves a few inches of water. If your boat is new, there is a bow to stern 1 yr warranty.
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Post by outtadblue on Apr 8, 2019 8:28:18 GMT -5
Tiger, mine does not drain out with the pump off and all valves closed. I’m guessing that your inlet valve inside the well is defective. Just a guess but seems logical if water is coming in and out when in the off position. Should be an easy fix and you should have a 1 year warranty on all parts.
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Post by gatorman on Apr 8, 2019 17:27:21 GMT -5
Tiger, I had the same problem and Im not sure if mine is set up like yours but here is what I did. First for the leaning post live well I had the same problem with water coming in when the valve was off. I never use it as a live well so I took off the black hose fitting inside the live well took it to ace hardware matched it up with a cap then went back to the boat and caped it off completely. problem solved there.
On the rear live well mine is set up when it gets full I just reach down inside the live well and turn the black nozzle half turn which closes it off and wont allow water to run back out where it was coming in filling it. Then turn baitwell switch off at helm. Mine then will not drain water back out. Gatorman-
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Post by abouttime2fish on Apr 9, 2019 6:32:40 GMT -5
You will need to ID where that water is coming in. The inlet closes. The drain closes. There’s only one other hole in there and that’s the overflow. If water is coming in there then we have an interesting plumbing/hydrodynamic issue going on.
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Post by reelkul on Apr 9, 2019 7:36:34 GMT -5
I only use my leaning post live well once or twice a year, typically if I go on multi day fishing trips in the Keys. I have broken off the black nozzle multiple times, as I use the live well for storage. To prevent the nozzle from constantly breaking and from letting the water go into it, I replaced the nozzle with a cap for a water hose. You can buy them at Ace Hardware. Thus, when I need to have water in the live well, I unscrew the cap, and place the nozzle there.
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